The LSAC is reporting that "As of 01/29/16, there are 190,914 2016 applications submitted by 29,404 applicants for the 2016–2017 academic year. Applicants are up 0.9% and applications are up 0.1% from 2015–2016. Last year at this time, we had 52% of the preliminary final applicant count." Based on this preliminary data, one would predict that there will be around 56,546 applicants for 2016-17.
The last post in this series is here. The next post in this series is here.
This huge increase justified a prediction that applicants will be up 3-5% this year!
And, remember, all this increase will come at the end because applicants are coming in later in the season (which mathematically must continue).
Or, wait, was that can't continue?
Transparency is driving all of this, which is why law schools oppose both transparency and Law School Transparency.
We will see an increase of 5 percent in LSATs administered this cycle. We likely will end up slightly down in terms of applicants by the end of the cycle, as I do not see the continuation of late-cycle application increases that we've seen year over year for the last 4 cycles.
There is a flight to quality and a good number of schools will experience a vicious cycle of bad numbers scaring away good students. PAYE and REPAYE are scary to 0Ls too. Why would you enroll in a program knowing that you'll have to pay 10 percent of your income to Sallie Mae for more than two decades? It steals any wage premium and gives it to the schools. Students are not fools.
I believe we can all stipulate that law school training is a great education. It "teaches" one how to "read." I relish and cherish the way I understand how our systems work and that I am the face of justice in my community and to my clients.
The key to transparency is to tell all prospective students that the legal profession is not the vehicle to a stable, sustainable middle class income it once was just a very few short years ago. That the average solo, which is fifty percent of the profession, takes in around 35-40K per year and that the BLS figures does not include that Solo practice data.
In other words, don't argue with the data.
Cpt Carswell,
You're a little light on your salary average, but only a little. I'd say 50k to 70k depending on year.
Jojo,
I believe Prof. Campos cited to around 40K. My colleagues and I believe 60K is the holy grail of income and salary for a solo, unconnected attorney. It is a huge barrier to get beyond that. Still, even at 50K, your figure, is still paltry given the extent of education, training and risks we take to become attorneys. That does not include student loan debt.
No argument that the juice is not worth the squeeze at 50 or 60k. I believe until you hit six figures, law is not worth the tuition, stress, time, personalities, and fights, good luck consistently clearing 75k. Does not happen.
The Alabama Bar releases a regular economic survey of attorneys in the state, though a low (22%) response rate might throw the numbers off a bit.
About a quarter of lawyers were true solos, and another quarter were in 2-5 person firms.
Of the solos, about 25-30% made more than $100k. About 23% made $25k or less and 20% made between $25k and $50k.
For small shops the numbers are considerably better. About 35% make $100k or more. Only 8% are below $25k, and about 17% are between $25k and $50k.
Overall, 45% made $100k or more, and 25% made $50k or less. But, I don't think the averages are really what people should be too concerned about. It's the size of the downside that's really troubling, even if the average is okay.
Jojo
It is not stress, the personalities, "fights" (as you put it) clients and their uncooperative mopery or even an occasional judge who yells and screams and gets it wrong. I signed up for that. What I did not bargain for is the explosion in the hundred or so diploma mill like correspondence law schools saturating the market with lawyers. The ABA broke open the standards. Now I am competing with $49.00 dollar traffics and new lawyers (SEE The Ticket Clinic, Chicago…the managing attorney was entered the Bar in 2015) with 10 AVVO ratings. Big billboards posted along the Chicago Expressways proclaim: "Don't Pay that Ticket, Don't Pay the Fine, NO Court. $49.00" and show an copper pointing a radar gun.
These applicant numbers are a bit of a surprise on the down side. With the last post showing a 2-3% increase in applicants and modest year over year increases in LSAT takers on the last 5 test dates I expected slightly more applicants.
I do think that we will see more late applicants in the cycle than last year. As I've said here in the past schools have adapted. Their recruiting efforts do not end in March or April anymore. They spend a lot more time, money and energy late in the cycle to get butts in the seats and they are better at it now.
If you think those $50 traffic cases are bad, you don't want to watch the recent Shark Tank episode where a company had an automated challenge process. Customers hand over the ticket, they run the data through an automated analysis that looks for technical defects, and then challenges the ticket. Only pay if they win, and it's something like 30% of the ticket amount.
There's also more automation happening in document review. Granted, that's not real lawyering, but less doc review jobs will push more lawyers into the (excuse my French) caca-law field.
Derek, thanks for mentioning that automated thing. I had not thought about that; it opens up many areas.
Also, as I have said before, I believe that offshoring has yet to hit the US legal industry.
Doc review has paved the way, since it showed that a large chunk of 'legal work ' is more like standard data-entry work. And with it crossing state lines, crossing national borders is a small step.
Derek and BarryL,
I know of at least one major insurance carrier that has centralized its run-of-the-mill legal work in a few regional law centers. Staff counsel handles court appearances, depositions, etc., and substantive factual briefs, in its various state offices. The three or four regional law centers ghost-write routine motions, pleadings, etc. It makes for a highly-specialized lean office, and it cuts down on the number of "real lawyers" that the insurance company needs in each market.
The market for attorneys is just beginning to change, and it will change for the worse over the next decade. Just wait until the meat and potatoes PI tort case work declines due to self-driving cars, centralized insurance staff counsel office, etc. A 30 percent decline in litigation work at small offices, translates to a similar decline in total numbers of small law litigators.
There is so much doom, gloom, and outright negativity on posts relating to legal education. I understand that things may not be great but the comments don't seem to be representative.
9:14 pm:
These comments are representative of the data and actual practice experiences. I know many veteran and newbie attorneys who are struggling to earn a sustainable middle class income. It is not pretty out there. One of my unemployed attorney buddies out in excess of thirty years from a T1 school attended a jobs networking event in an upscale suburb. Out of twenty attendees, five were unemployed attorneys including him. I know attorneys, far better than me, working retail on weekends to make ends meet. Check out the Law School Lemmings blog….check out Above The Law.
Yes, but there are many who are experiencing different outcomes, and the tide is turning. Legal education has taken great steps in recent years — more transparency, greater emphasis on practice, more concern for employment outcomes, more manageable tuition, etc. The reform is far from complete but there have been meaningful changes.
Jojo, what insurance carrier is that? I'd like to interview one of their attorneys for our podcast, I Am The Law.
10:50-
Schools have not reformed tuition, which is the primary problem, and "practice-ready" skills are not particularly relevant if the work isn't there. The problem is schools have grown so much and on the backs of skyrocketing tuition that they are for the most part not particularly sustainable. The tide isn't turning; all that's happening is every year the supply of lawyers grows.
Law school tuition cannot fall until the cost structure of law school changes. And if the automation and innovation in law practice that you describe does not translate to law schools, it's not clear how law schools will change their cost structures. Maybe through school closings and mergers creating economies of scale, but the opposite seems to be happening. New law schools continue to open and the ones that close/merge do not appear to be offsetting the ones that open.
I encourage you to think about law schools like other distressed businesses. We should expect to see them take steps to decrease their costs (faculty and staff buyouts, attrition, salary cuts, etc.) and increase their revenue streams (new LLM programs, etc.) For some, this will be enough to squeak by. For others, it won't be and they'll feel pressure to merge or close.
Curiously, bankruptcy reorganization is NOT an option for most colleges. see http://www.creditslips.org/creditslips/2015/01/law-schools-and-their-creditors-face-overwhelming-incentives-to-avoid-bankruptcy.html
Agree with twin, anon. The "reforms" are really few and far between. Changing legal Ed is like turning a battleship that does not want to turn. Other disciplines have been far more nimble in moving to online education, responding to the needs of the marketplace in offering new programs, etc. I am especially thinking of the allied health fields and had some experience working at an allied health college. Worlds apart from legal Ed in terms of adaptability. Enrollment in certain field such as PT was limited to ensure all grads got jobs, too.
We all know most of those in legal Ed esp faculty and senior admins really don't want to change.
Meant agree with TWBB.
I don't think the last part of the comment above is accurate. Change may take some time but there is absolutely no support for the assertion that faculty and senior administrators don't want to change. Legal education in ten years will be markedly different in many respects than now, and those within law schools right now will be some of the agents of change.
Tens years from now many of those holding on to the status quo will be gone. But beyond that…
One could argue that legal education today should be very different today than it was ten years ago, if for no other reason because of technology both in and out of the classroom. Has legal ed improved, is it delivered differently than it was ten years ago, is it less expensive? Technology should have improved the quality of legal ed and how it is taught and the way in which it is delivered and lowered costs. It did none of that because faculty have not transformed their teaching and could not be forced to do so. The changes in the classroom especially have been marginal, not transformative, and I don't expect anything more over the next ten years.
So while things will undoubtedly be different in ten years, it will not necessarily be better or less expensive. This is especially true if there is a rebound, even a small one, in enrollment because those resisting change will see it was things "returning to normal".
Anon, the problem is that senior faculty and administrators are willing to embrace change as long as it doesn't interfere with their salary, job security, and hours. Unfortunately that might not be sustainable
Many schools that have spent the paade hiring significant numbers of faculty at high salaries and rushing them to tenure.
twbb: the real driver of cost increase is not traditional academic faculty but additional administrators/deanlets and the build up of clinics and other labor intensive small class activity. the law school model of even 15 years ago probably had on average 1/3 fewer staff. academic faculty let this happen but were often goaded into the changes by well organized bureaucratically inclined deans who use non-tenure track appointments to bolster their power relative to tenure track faculty. I think academic faculty would be happy to go back to the lower cost model but that ship has sailed and now they will have to pay (personally) for the hybrid model.
For a short piece about the rise of administrative staff, see here: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2668644. That said, while sticker price has been rising quite fast, effective tuition (that is, sticker price – discounts) has been holding steady. To me, this suggests the problem is an obsession (perhaps justified, perhaps not), with USNews rankings. For an economics-based explanation of the rise in sticker price, see: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2012/05/11/152511771/the-real-price-of-college
Wrong,anon. I have been on many ABAreaccreditatio tea sad worked at a few schools. We see all budgetary info as team members and at every school I am familiar with, faculty salaries are the largest component of the budget by far. At my school, faculty salaries are 50% of the total budget and I doubt that is unusual.
Would you like to get rid of the IT staff, necessitated by technology? What about the faculty secretaries, research librarians who work with faculty? Many tenured faculty don't want clinicians, LRW people on tenure track.
Tenured faculty are always quick to throw everyone else overboard regardless of the benefits they bring to students. It's all about the tenured faculty.
Leo:
You say I'm wrong but then point to several areas in law school hiring that demonstrate I'm right. But the major point is the expansion of clinics and other non-academic forms of "education" that do not increase job prospects and are really a way for law schools to pretend they prepare students for practice.
Also see:
http://www.nber.org/papers/w21827
This is a global trend in academia and law schools are not immune.
Leo, you point to several layers in the modern law school bureaucracy and defend them thus demonstrating precisely my point. you suggest faculty salaries are 50% of the budget but you do not break that down among academic and non academic faculty nor do you provide any historical context for the growth of either category. no one who looks at academia believes traditional tenure track academic faculty are increasing their weight in universities.
One hopes that the derision directed at law firm faculty on this and the so-called scam blogs is not representative of the larger academic community or students. It's quite remarkable.