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June 06, 2018

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Anon

Perhaps the greatest act of political terror in 20th Century American history. While JFK's murder was (of course) tragic, his policies remained the administration's priorities until derailed by Vietnam. OTOH, once RFK had been murdered, the deeply cynical politics of Nixon became the dominant narrative (to his eventual downfall and disgrace). I weep for the more compassionate country we might have had with the conscience of RFK in the Senate, Cabinet, or White House.

What might have been...

anon

Reviewing Bobby Kennedy, The Making of a Liberal Icon, By Larry Tye in the Washington Post on July 22, 2016, MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough stated, “From Bobby’s eager role as a friend and aide to Sen. Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin, to his disdain for Fifth Amendment protections against self-incrimination, to his hatred of homosexuals, to his use of dirty tricks against political opponents, to the wiretapping of Martin Luther King Jr. — whom Kennedy never trusted or liked — to his role in an assassination plot against Fidel Castro, Tye gives the reader an unflinching look at Kennedy’s darkest side …”

In fact, as noted recently in the New Republic, RFK wasn’t a liberal at all. See, RFK, Civic Republican What a Bobby Kennedy presidency could have meant for American political life, By Win McCormack May 25, 2018.

It is simply a fact that “liberals” (as they like to call themselves) are suckers for good-looking charmers, who speak in cultured tones and exude a sort of “sophistication” they associate with goodness. Because they rarely, if ever, apply to their hero celebrity-like politicians the same critical analysis that they do to their political adversaries, these "liberals" wind up supporting and propping up many actions that they could never accept in a "conservative."

This child-like idol-worship is what makes so many Americans recoil in revulsion at the “liberal” stance: "We are holy and beyond reproach, and you are deplorable."

What would a RFK presidency have wrought? Who knows? As noted above, this man was responsible for some very seriously wrong acts against democracy and against “liberal” icons. Did he speak in an inspirational manner? You bet. Was he good looking and "cool"? Ever so much so. Is this, folks, the test?

Until the Democrats begin to examine their own unexamined flaws there will be no progress in this country. When Democrats begin to realize that their worship of beauty and grace in political leaders does not mean that those leaders are flawless, effective or even "good," we will have what we have now: a Democratic party that claims “We are perfect (just look at/listen to him!) and you are evil”

Anon

I think RFK shows that people can change. They can learn. Evolve. Cultivate compassion. And re-evaluate their path. Conservatives - at least he current crop - are incapable of any of that.

And to respond to your latest nonsense, the sentence "these 'liberals' wind up supporting and propping up many actions that they could never accept in a 'conservative'" reminds me very much of the current crop of "conservatives" who, since their man is in power, no longer care about values, honesty, decency, decorum, or character. To whatever extent that liberals have hero worship (and I disagree with the premise), the current complete abdication of character by the "moral majority' types will not be judged kindly by the pages of history.

But I'd love to hear (again) why liberals are always the problem.

anon

"Conservatives - at least he current crop - are incapable of any of that."
" "conservatives" who, since their man is in power, no longer care about values, honesty, decency, decorum, or character. "
"your latest nonsense"
"the current complete abdication of character by the "moral majority' types"

QED

Anon

I stand by all of those statements as accurately depicting the cesspool of the current situation in DC.

Seems to me the real problem is one who can dish it out but cant take it.

anon

Anon

Let's see, you accuse a commenter of "not being able to take it" after letting loose with an unseemly barrage of falsehoods.

Let's take one apart, just for the fun of exposing your muddy thinking. You state: "conservatives" ... since their man is in power, no longer care about values, honesty, decency, decorum, or character."

You must live in a very tightly sealed bubble. The notion that no "conservative" has addressed any of these issues with respect to the object of your quite obviously out of control hostility is risible. You paint with such a broad brush that you render your statement a patent falsehood. YOu may be too angry or uninformed to know this, so the correct adjective would probably be "ignorant" and not "liar."

But, more importantly, you seem to be unable to read very well. If you had read the comment above that set off your tirade of insults, you would have seen a plea to examine "both sides" equally ... not a defense of one.

The fact that you seem to be incapable of understanding that point, and, the fact that you write such obscenely angry and vicious misstatements, essentially branding half of your fellow citizens as "deplorables" is, as stated above, proof of the point.

WHy don't you turn some of that viciousness on someone on "your side"? In response, you overstate the point (you spit, "But I'd love to hear (again) why liberals are always the problem." That is a total straw person. No one so claimed. Ultra-liberals are "a" problem though. Can you not understand? You claim that no "conservative" will criticize or find fault with another conservative. This is, in context, pure projection.

Not only is this juvenile retort non responsive, it is loony.

The real tell is this one: "Seems to me the real problem is one who can dish it out but cant take it. "

Again, pure projection. I could argue with you all day and not feel even a little bit upset. You remind of a kid in the store having a tantrum, and, to me, your ranting is quite funny.

You, on the other hand, appear to have become unglued at the very hint of any fault in RFK.

QED

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