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May 10, 2018

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anon

" But if it is to be tough, it must also be consistent in its approach and transparent in its reasoning."

Couldn't agree with you more on this point, which applies to you too.

SO, the next time you are dumping on one school, but ignoring another with characteristics that are similarly or identically poor to those you decry, please don't attack an observer for pointing out this fact (i.e., please don't claim the observer has paid some sort of untoward attention to the school being allowed to escape your scrutiny).

There should be clear rules, applied fairly and consistently, to all law schools. One can only hope that favoritism and insider affiliations don't influence the scrutiny of these schools by commentators and regulators.

r

It'll be interesting to see how many similar lawsuits we'll see. My guess, after Cooley's apparent success, is that suing the ABA, or even just threatening to sue, will become the go-to response to any adverse compliance action. After the ABA found Cooley in compliance, it's a real up hill battle to justify finding any other law school out of compliance.

Ultimately, the ABA will probably need to scrap its vague, discretionary standards and impose more objective standards such as the previously proposed 75% bar passage requirement. But I'm not sure that even these objective standards will fully insulate the ABA from lawsuits.

anon

Putting the enforcement in the DOE is long overdue. The bottom line is what everyone knows: the ABA is incapable and incompetent.

The DOE should take a very simple, clear approach: take a set of 100 entering law students. After graduation from law school, and within one year, how many of those students have a.) passed the bar and b.) obtained full-time, long-term employment in JD required positions?

If the answer is fewer than, say, 20 out of 100, then the law school should be shuttered. Want to make that number higher or lower? Ok. But, at least we could dispense with the over lawyering of the whole process.

The posts by Frakt really do demonstrate the reason that the approaches to date, including his, can't work.

Deep State Special Legal Counsel

I know a PI attorney who graduated from Costal and if my spouse or I were rendered sick, sore and disabled due to the negligence of another, I would retain this guy. He is loved and adored by everybody in the courthouse community...he knows how to schmooze with the best of 'em. He understands that law is not about knowing the law or citing appellate opinions. It's about relationships and getting things done for difficult clients in a beaurecreatic environment when the deck is stacked against you by a substandard acting State Farm. They deny, delay and don't pay. They pay no dough to friend or foe and my colleague from Costal knows his way around that....

Anon Prof

The problem with schools like Florida Coastal is the poor quality faculty these students are forced to "learn" from.

Deep State Special Legal Counsel

The problem is not the faculty...I would guess that they are all excellent professors. After all, they transformed my colleague into an Esquire from a Time-Share salesman...

The issue is not faculty, but the business model of the Sterling Partners, a private equity group out of Chicago that owns the joint. Its all about profit and harvesting those federal student loan dollars. Somebody more articulate than me, maybe it was Atlantic Magazine, (don't want any Melania Trump problems) called it "private gain" and "socialized risk."

dupednontraditional

Probably is a fair comment that the ABA went from "doing nothing" about violations of admission standards to now over-reacting. If the ABA had applied an even-handedness over the years, there would be nothing to correct from in the first place. Plus, the history of enforcement would have had a chance to establish precedent. As it stands, we are jerking from one extreme to the other.

Although, it is nice to see the ABA paying some actual attention, regardless.

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