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May 25, 2018


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Deep State Special Legal Counsel

Aw come on now. Cooley can't be that bad. Michael Cohen scored more cash from Ma Bell than most lawyers like me will see in 10 years of hustling three bill retail thefts, DUI's, d rear ender soft tissue, slip and falls and house closings. And he didn't have to schlepp to court in two feet of snow.


Maybe if the ABA loses, and loses decisively, the legal academic enterprise can finally be subjected to scrutiny by an alternative agency with some credibility - perhaps the DOE, perhaps a newly minted accreditation agency that isn't just a tool (see David's recent post on regulatory capture): the ABA is a hapless creature that is incapable of applying common sense and coherent judgments.

Its vague and ambiguous standards are inconsistently enforced (with the goal, it seems, of never taking any real action). When it takes "action" for the sake of symbolism, it is rightly called out for the bizarre approaches it takes to avoid imposing real consequences on any part of the law school enterprise.

David doesn't like to look at Golden Gate. But, he should. Not only because of where it is, but also because of where it has been in the recent past, vis a vis the ABA. It is a perfect case study to demonstrate the ABA's demise as an accrediting agency. (And, the horrible injustices that so many have decried for so long associated with attrition, bar pass, and employment stats.)


Solid reporting on highly questionable law school practices. Shame on both private and public law schools for almost desperately wanting to continue operations although society may no longer have a need for as many law schools as is currently the case (if it ever did) and, worst of it all, for admitting law students who are clearly not able to pass the bar. That is unethical at best and fraud in the inducement at worst.

To the detractors of Frakt in his other posts: You suffer from the negative aspects of "the Jante Law." Look it up. The discussions about law school practices are necessary and can lead to an improvement of a situation that we all agree is highly problematic. Better to welcome that than to kill the messenger.



Please read more about Cooley vs ABA before throwing assumptions like you did in the past with the settlement. You are running toward conclusions and assumptions too fast, then you speak about Florida Coastal and Infilaw and all this non sense.

The litigation with Cooley continues because their application for the Kalamazoo program (new campus location apparently) has not been approved by ABA. Not a fan of jumping on the bandwagon.

David Frakt

Shin -

I have read all the filings. I see nothing in the filings that suggests that the only remaining issue is approving the Kalamazoo location. Cooley is still litigating the propriety of the 501(b) finding of non-compliance last fall. But if you know something about the litigation and have some insights to share, by all means please do so.

Blakely Moore

This is a great post on the suit. One way or another, I hope this results in stricter enforcement and fewer unethical schools (at least fewer with accreditation). It's a shame the ABA was so lax for so long, especially when students were getting hurt by empty promises.

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