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August 03, 2017


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It appears to be clear that the ABA has been captured, and it now is principally preoccupied with protecting the bottom feeders from actual closure. See, the outrageous recent post claiming that the overall decline in enrollments equals closing law schools! (This is like saying that if restaurant patronage in fine dining is down, it is perfectly ok to keep open restaurants serving rat-infested, spoiled and poisonous food, because an overall decline in patronage is "like closing restaurants"!)

The DOE really needs to step in and divest the ABA of its authority. It is demonstrably incapable of sustained, meaningful efforts and has, apparently, no shame.


Why aren't the legitimate law schools more concerned about this? The bottom feeders and their regulatory grab are hurting your brand and harming students and taxpayers alike. Before law school became a social justice warrior incubator (which occurred some point during the early 1970s), law schools were primarily concerned with the law and with preparing people to work as legal professionals.

It seems that today legal academics are primarily concerned with legal academia, then social justice issues, then with left leaning political causes, then with pet projects, . . . then with lunch, and finally then with the actual legal profession.


There are a lot of judges and practitioners on the Council. I was surprised to see this. I would have thought that it was controlled by lower ranked schools. I wonder what the back story is on this rush to push these changes through. It will only draw the attention of the DOE.


17 years ago I was a law professor at a bottom-feeder school and a bunch of professors got dismissed (actually they dismissed all the productive ones), so I sued the ABA in Illinois State Court in a derivative proceeding, since I was a member of the ABA. Basically the Legal Education division does whatever it wants with no accountability, even if their decisions lack basic procedural or substantive safeguards. They do whatever they want and are unaccountable to even the larger ABA. I alleged that the rulemaking process for the Legal Education division was in violation of Illinois law because an Illinois corporation can only act through its members (by a vote of directors) and not through a delegated division acting on its own. I said that the Legal Education division was acting like a mini-sovereign but it lacked the authority to do so.

I saw the revolving door between the Legal Education division and the bottom-feeder schools. I saw how the schools had to hire ABA people as Deans in order to get accreditation. I saw how the numbers were being cooked. I saw how the whole system was rotten. And I was dealing with the same clowns that you mention in your post.

I SAW THIS COMING 20 YEARS AGO. AND I DID SOMETHING. The ABA hired a big law firm to go against me, and I was pro bono. The judge said that the process at the ABA smelled bad but he refused to go further and strike it. I did not have time or money for an appeal.

Back then law schools were riding high, and no one was there to help me. I was alone.

So now things are bad. And you want to do a petition. Good luck with that.

When I needed you guys, you were nowhere to be found. People laughed at me for taking on the Legal Education division. I was called a lunatic.

I have no sympathy for this fight at this late stage. You can choke on your petition.


The higher ranking schools want teaching jobs for their graduates. Its a Ponzi scheme.

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