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February 06, 2015

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Milan

This sounds like a wonderful program. However, I am a bit curious about the "superior competence" point. Is it surprising or noteworthy that students trained to conduct "standardized client interviews" would outperform a randomly selected cohort of new lawyers on these interviews?

JM

Calvin, only the top entering UNH students are designated for the DWS program. Of course they are more "in demand" than the rest of your students. They have better undergraduate records and probably have much better law school grades on average too. The DWS program could be all about square dancing and they would get jobs at a higher rate. This does not prove anything.

JEA

Even assuming that graduates of that sort of program start out ahead of other law graduates in terms of practice competence, for how long do they keep that edge? Perhaps one reason why employers don't value law school experiential training is that they think that any advantage such graduates have will be short-lived, since the learning curve of actual law practice in the law firm is so steep that whatever small boost in competence is seen will be soon swamped by differential rates of achievement post-hiring.

Calvin Massey

JM: DWS students are selected after completion of their 1L year, based on interviews and assessment of their 1L academic performance.

JEA: Good question. The cited study does not examine that question. A longitudinal study is necessary.

Derek Tokaz

For a longitudinal study, a great source of data would be rising 3L students just finishing their summer jobs. Collect information about their skills immediately finishing a 10-12 week full time job, and then collect information about those same skills after graduation. That will give some idea about how legal skills atrophy over time.

If you want meaningful, lasting skills training, I suspect it's something you're going to need every semester of the 2L and 3L year. About 24-30 total credits worth, not the 6 or so most students get.

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