Over at the Chronicle Forums (here), readers are chiming in with the "Ten Worst Things to Put on Your CV," inspired by a similar general-business post over here at Yahoo Finance. Here are some of my favorites from the Chron:
- Eagle scout
- MENSA Membership
- Photos
- Hobbies
- Job talks
- Marital status and names of kids
- Placement in recent athletic competitions
- Postings to fan-fiction sites
- List of grants applied for but denied or unfunded.
So what are some of the worst things for a law prof to put on a CV? I'll incorporate by reference all of the above and add a few more:
- Pre-collegiate employment or volunteer activity
- Pre-collegiate anything, really
- Lists of blog postings
- Religious affiliation or membership.
Additions? Modifications? Clarifications? How about American Bar Foundation Fellowship? Service as an outside tenure reviewer? What's on your list of "don'ts" for a law prof's CV?
Law school class rank. Especially putting that you finished in the top 11% of your law school class. Smacks of bitterness. Put top 15% if you put it at all. You're a law professor, everyone knows you've either done very well academically or went to Harvard/Yale/Stanford.
Posted by: Former Law Review EIC | August 30, 2011 at 07:27 PM
Anything that makes the CV over two pages. When I was on a recruiting committee last year, all I really wanted to know about a candidate was:
1. Teaching experience- Has he/she taught (and if so, where- law school or other)?
2. Subject matter fit- What has he/she taught? Is it what we need?
3. Publications- Does he/she publish (and in particular, publish in law reviews or a reasonable fascimile thereof)?
The rest is just clutter.
I never felt like I needed extra stuff to keep interviews going, especially since we had a pretty large committee.
Posted by: Michael Lewyn | August 30, 2011 at 08:09 PM
Lateral offers declined. (I have actually seen this one.)
Posted by: Eric Muller | August 30, 2011 at 08:38 PM
Harvard
Posted by: Joe Lucas | August 30, 2011 at 09:48 PM
* Maury Povich Show, "You are NOT the Father" (repeated appearances) (stipend received)
Seriously: what about "lead article" with respect to one's scholarship?
Posted by: Dave Sidhu | August 30, 2011 at 09:53 PM
Honest question from a Girl Scout Gold Award recipient: does the Gold Award/Silver Award in Girl Scouts have the same stigma attached to it as the Eagle Scout Award? It's not on my resume but never thought it was stigmatized...
Posted by: Girl Scout | August 30, 2011 at 09:59 PM
Substantive legal experience in a practice field relevant to real-world practice.
Posted by: Lance | August 30, 2011 at 10:24 PM
Anything that demonstrates a concern for your students, or a queasiness about using fraudulent job placement statistics to trick them into destroying their lives with debt, so that you can earn a six figure salary by working 10 hours a week.
Posted by: anon | August 30, 2011 at 10:52 PM
I don't see any problem with posting one's "religious affiliation or membership."
Posted by: Law Prof | August 30, 2011 at 11:25 PM
Federalist Society -- Chapter President.
Posted by: Orin Kerr | August 31, 2011 at 02:24 AM
Semi Finalist, Buncombe County Corn Queen Pageant.
Posted by: Anon | August 31, 2011 at 08:35 AM
I'm with Dave - "lead article" always strikes me as being a little self-inflated and overblown. Okay, so you were the first to ask that journal to be the lead article - or perhaps you're actually one of the better articles being published by that journal in that issue or volume. So what? To me it signals hardly anything meaningful - except that the person (mistakenly) thinks this is a great accomplishment. And you actually see this from lots of more senior colleagues. Maybe I'm missing something.
Posted by: anon | August 31, 2011 at 09:14 AM
Eagle Scout is a difficult accomplishment, and is something to be proud of. It shows dedication at an early age, a wide array of skills, and self modivation and determination. All are good skills in a job performance. I will continue to list my Eagle Scout accomplishment. I will also encourage my boys (both my own three, and the many boys in my scout troop) to proudly list Eagle Scout on as one of their greatest accomplishments. I have interviewed many people in my career. I have hired many Eagle Scouts. I have never been disappointed with the job performance of one of the Eagle Scouts that I have hired or with whom I have had the pleasure of working.
Sincerely,
An Eagle Scout, and Dedicated Scout Leader
Posted by: K. M. Jones | August 31, 2011 at 09:24 AM
Lance:
Is there such a thing as substantive legal experience in a practice field that is irrelevant to real-world practice?
Posted by: Mike Rich | August 31, 2011 at 10:30 AM
I would think blog work on your CV would depend on the blog. Posting at Volokh Conspiracy? Cool. Posting at "I Think There's an Underpants Conspiracy?" Not so cool.
Posted by: James H | August 31, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Class rank: Top 80%
(I've actually seen this.)
Posted by: Coleen Barger | August 31, 2011 at 02:26 PM
When I was at a large firm, I saw a resume, from a very good applicant, which noted that she had won the swimsuit contest in her state beauty pageant.
Posted by: anoprof | August 31, 2011 at 05:38 PM
Percentage of your students who are now working as practicing lawyers - totally irrelevant to working as a law school prof.
Posted by: FOARP | September 01, 2011 at 11:55 AM
I've seen MENSA membership on one before....
Posted by: anon | September 01, 2011 at 03:51 PM
(Cross-posting my comment from Prawfs, elaborating on what I meant in saying that a law prof should not list religious affiliation or membership on an academic CV.)
For whatever it's worth, here is what I intended. I don't think it is ok to explicitly list one's marital status, race, religion, birthdate, or parenting status ("2 children: Jack and Jill") on one's academic CV. Or as Paul explained more clearly, I think it is inappropriate to "list one's religion as, say, a separate line on the resume under the heading of 'Religion,' just as one wouldn't have an entry for 'Marital Status' or 'Race.'" (Thanks, Paul!) As to listing activities/involvements/affiliations that tend to indicate any of those, I have no objection.
Posted by: Bridget Crawford | September 02, 2011 at 03:14 PM