Is there a way to give gentle and well-intended feedback to a colleague who hasn't asked for it? Specifically, how can one approach a colleague and suggest that his or her CV needs a major overhaul? I'm not thinking of feedback like, "Write an article every once in a while and your CV would be better." I'm contemplating situations where a colleague's publicly available CV might have one or more of these problems:
- CV omits dates of prior employment;
- CV is full of vague descriptions of employment before, during or after law school;
- CV contains activities/honors/accomplishments from pre-collegiate life (does anyone really care about the 8th grade science fair?);
- CV lists odd "honors" and "fellowships" (Marquis Who's Who, anyone?);
- CV claims "Presentation at X Law School," when the presentation was to a student group;
- CV has more pages than twice the number of years the person has been a faculty member (say, a 20-page CV for someone who has not been teaching very long...and didn't have a pre-legal career in another field, just multiple listings of every random op-ed and blog post they've written);
- CV claims status as "consultant" and "advisor" for multiple groups without indication of responsibilities or level of engagement;
- CV fails to acknowledge explicitly that one's paper has a co-author.
I know that if a student's resume raised any of these flags, I would feel obligated to indicate (as kindly as possible) where changes might be in order. But is the analysis different with one's colleagues? Does it matter if the offending CV belongs to someone junior/senior/tenured/untenured? Does it matter if the person who notices weird/vague/misleading aspects of the CV is the Associate Dean for Research and Faculty Development (yup, me)?
As law professors, we tend to be experienced at giving feedback to colleagues about their writing, and to students about...well, just about everything. We're less experienced at giving or receiving honest feedback about the professional face we present to the world.
Any tips or guidance greatly appreciated.
What's wrong with including a presentation to a student group?
Posted by: Kevin Jon Heller | March 18, 2011 at 08:36 PM
There's absolutely nothing wrong with including a presentation to a student group if indicated as such. Under a CV heading "Scholarly Presentations," I would interpret the text "Presentation at X Law School (March 18, 2011)" as tending to convey that the faculty member had presented at a faculty colloquium -- not to a student group -- at X Law School. "Presentation at X Law School (March 18, 2011) for the Y Law Students Association" would be more accurate, IMHO. I should have explained more in the initial post.
Posted by: Bridget Crawford | March 18, 2011 at 08:56 PM
I think you have to distinguish between those aspects of the CV that are hokey or arguably silly, and those that are downright misleading. The hokey/silly stuff is just a matter of taste. I personally don't care to list every blog post (even substantive blog posts) I have ever written, but I can't say that it's wrong for someone else to do so.
The vague descriptions of employment pre and post law school may or may not raise issues. If the employment has relatively little relevance to law teaching, I don't know that it is so terrible to just include a vague one-line sentence on these matters. On the other hand, if your contention is that the vague description provides a false impression that someone enjoyed a more important position than was actually the case, then I think this is a greater concern.
Further along on the misrepresentation spectrum, I am not sure if "presentation at X law school" is quite so bad, since knowledgeable interviewers probably would ask the follow-up question "was this a workshop?" without actually assuming it. [If the CV said "workshop", then I would be far more concerned]. At the same time, I agree that "presentation to student group at X law school" is preferable.
Finally, omitting the fact that a piece has been co-authored falls at the far end of the spectrum. It's just wrong.
Posted by: Miriam Baer | March 19, 2011 at 10:37 AM
I mostly agree with Miriam.
We could also draw a distinction between CVs actually used for some professional purpose and CVs generated just because the school's website calls for one. If a professor is submitting a CV for some professional purpose, it should be as accurate and clear as possible. But I see a lot of CVs on websites that (I suspect) were just generated because law school websites have a spot for them.
Posted by: Orin Kerr | March 19, 2011 at 01:16 PM
Good post. I wonder if c.v. norms are more unsettled in legal academia than in non-professional-school academia. Appropriate length and degree of comprehensiveness might be unsettled because law profs are familiar w/ both academic c.v.'s and short professional resumes. I believe the traditional c.v. outside of professional school has been quite long and inclusive of everything academic (making organization and formatting key to ensure the important stuff doesn't get buried) while tending to exclude non-academic employment.
Posted by: KN | March 19, 2011 at 02:02 PM
Orin, could you say a bit more about CVs used for a professional purpose (like a grant application, perhaps) and a CV generated because the school's website requires it? My initial thought was that the CVs should be the same; that misleading "the public" is no different than misleading a grant reviewer. Perhaps there is a difference between a CV that a professor prepares for himself or herself, and one that a school's marketing department prepares for the website. But in the latter case, I think the professor should be proactive in making sure that any marketing materials are accurate.
Posted by: Bridget Crawford | March 19, 2011 at 08:00 PM
Here's a common one: saying in the text bio that Prof X published in Y journal, but they really published in Y journal's online version. That seems misleading.
Posted by: Anony | March 20, 2011 at 02:40 PM
NSF requires a two-pager. Most people want more. So, it's hard not to have different versions of a CV.
Also, please keep in mind that a law review is a student organization. More disclosure is always better, but I wouldn't hold it against the faculty member if he/she stated "X Law School," as compared to "X Law Review." A law review presentation is not necessarily less attractive than a faculty talk.
In addition, some schools may not be lucky enough to have a faculty colloquium series ($$$!). Some schools may also have to rely on budgets set aside for student organizations to fund events or outside speakers.
On top of that, a considerable number of faculty members may show up to ask questions in a student organization event. Some public, well-attended student organization events, esp. those at top schools or in a metropolitan area, may also have far more faculty members than a faculty talk.
Again, more disclosure is generally better, but I wouldn't assume speaking at "X Law School" means speaking at a faculty colloquium. Nor would I discount speaking for student organizations. I would ask follow-up questions.
Posted by: Peter Yu | March 21, 2011 at 07:59 AM
Failing to list a co-author is a *big* no-no, and a colleague--associate dean or otherwise--should *definitely* flag that. Whenever I see a C.V. that lists Who's Who entries or the like--especially radio talk shows, or newspapers one's been quoted by--it makes me think the person is more insecure than most people. I'd be perfectly comfortable with an associate dean actively reviewing *all* faculty members' C.V.s that are available on a school's web site and making (sometimes pointed) recommendations
Posted by: David J. Garrow | March 21, 2011 at 08:59 AM