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December 10, 2009


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Orin Kerr


Thanks for the follow-up. I think the comparison to a faculty meeting vote on a person's future is revealing, but unpersuasive. At most schools, such votes can be intensely personal, and there is a tradition at many schools of a social etiquette that very strongly favors the positive. In that setting, genuinely critical words must be chosen carefully, as the speaker needs to translate from normal-speak into faculty-meeting-speak as accurately as possible.

Supreme Court opinions are different. Each Justice has a well-established set of views and positions, and it is understood that those positions carry no personal enmity or grudges. As a result, when one Justice dissents from an 8-Justice opinion -- especially expressing a position he has expressed before -- it would not widely be thought that the dissent was any kind of personal attack on the person who happened to be assigned the opinion. Thats my sense, at least.

Eric Muller

I see your point, Orin.

The faculty meeting example might seem revealing, but I think it's probably less revealing than you might think. I chose it because I imagine many readers of this blog to be law professors, and it seemed the most obvious example of public speaking where value gets attached to words. I might have chosen countless other examples -- including settings where, as you say, it's well understood that people have "well-established sets of views and positions," and "it is understood that these positions carry no personal enmity or grudges."

(Incidentally, I think that on most law faculties it's pretty well understood by and among most in the big "middle" of the faculty that public statements "carry no personal enmity or grudges," and are usually the expression of pretty well-known positions we've previously staked out, and yet we do tend to choose our words very carefully. In my experience, it's the folks out toward the far "edges" of faculties who tend to speak more explosively and with less regard for how their words will be heard and experienced by others.)

It seems to me that your claim really is this: opinion-crafting on the Supreme Court (even for its newest, yet-to-be-socialized member) is a closed doctrinal conversation among nine well-known participants, who can speak to one another through their public writings without fearing that the other participants in the conversation (or, apparently, other listeners) will scan their writings for such "tonal" matters as snubs, praise, slights, digs, inflections, ingratiation, and the like. The Justices all understand that they're just "doing their work," and nothing personal is either intended or felt.

You've been at the Court "on the inside," Orin, and I haven't, so to some extent I have to defer to what you report.

But not entirely -- because volumes of Supreme Court history have been written about the personalities and temperaments of the Justices and their interpersonal relations, as expressed both privately in their correspondence and publicly in their opinions. In the fields of judicial biography and Supreme Court history, it is commonplace to examine private and public statements of the Justices for evidence of the Justices' own personalities, of their relationships with each other, and of the positions they occupy within the "political" body that is the Supreme Court. This has always seemed to me a valid field of inquiry.

Thus, while it might be true that everyone on the Court (including Justice Sotomayor) attaches no personal meaning to the voting decisions and phrasing choices of their fellow Justices, I tend to doubt it.

And in any event, my initial comment was that Justice Thomas was rude to take the occasion of Justice Sotomayor's debut opinion as a propitious moment to write separately with words that echoed the political accusations she had just weathered. Even if their internal conversation is "different" in the way you suggest from other kinds of public discussion, their conversation is intensely public, and I, as a reader, am a party to it. Thus, even if Justice Sotomayor didn't subjectively experience Justice Thomas's actions as rude, that doesn't mean they weren't.

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