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April 04, 2013


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Bill Turnier

This is somewhat similar to Marc Galanter's "Why the Haves Come Out Ahead." that artichoke is so impactful that it had an retrospective issue of Law and Society dedicated to it 25 years after its initial publication. I had heard that it was initially widely rejected by law reviews and included this in remarks I made at a panel at a Law and Society meeting in Budapest in 2001. Marc was in the audience and I asked him from the platform how many actually rejected it. He said "All of them." I asked how many he sent it to. To which he replied "All, I mean all." I asked "You mean something like 125?" He nodded his head affirmatively and remarked that he fortunately had a very understanding dean who urged him to stick with it and resubmit it. He did and as they say, "The rest is history."

If any visitors to this blog have not as yet read it, I suggest that your time doing so would be well spent and you would find that the article has a timeless nature to it which is actually somewhat sad.

Bill Turnier

Sorry about "artichoke" but such are the dangers of using an iPad with it's auto spell checker and not carefully proofreading. Maybe it will stimulate this hungry fir food and knowledge to read Marc's excellent article.

Michelle Meyer

I assumed that "that artichoke is so impactful" was a reference to an adage of which I had been previously unaware, in which a rich, complex, multi-layered argument is likened to an artichoke, perhaps somewhat like the peeling away layers of an onion metaphor. (I've not read the paper in question, so I can't say if it is in fact multi-layered -- though I'll be sure to read it now.) I confess I'm a little sorry that this was just an auto correct incident.

Jeffrey Harrison

Al, now you've ruined it. When Leiter or someone does a ranking of the least cited articles, this article will be in it and oodles of people will begin citing it as one of the least cited and it will fall from the rankings.

And, Bill, Artie Choke used to play sax in a 1960s modern jazz group. I thought this was a very inside joke.

Alfred Brophy

I think you're right, Jeff! Now this will start being cited more -- maybe people will even read it. It's actually quite an interesting article and I think shows how student surveys can be good teaching devices, as well as tell us something about attitudes about policy.

Then again, it has a ways to go to before it's in the range of Sunstein's most-cited article (which I think has more than 850 citations).

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