Field Trips for Law School Classes

This fall I’ll teach a course at Penn Law on criminal law theory.  One of the readings for the course is Michel Foucault's book on the history of the prison, Discipline and Punish .  During the part of the course when we’ll be reading the book, I plan on taking my students on a “field trip” to the Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia.  The Eastern State Pen is interesting and worth visiting for a number of reasons (not least being the self-guided tour narrated by Steve Buscemi ) but my hope is that the students, most of whom have, of course, never been inside a jail or prison at all, will get a different view on the nature of a prison.  That the Eastern State Pen was one of the first modern prisons, and exemplified many of the developments that Foucault discusses in his book, makes a trip especially appealing to me.  (That Foucault’s own views on prisons were influenced by a trip he took to Attica some time before writing Discipline and Punish has also influenced my choice to try and do this.)  I’m curious to hear what people think of the idea, and if anyone else has incorporated field-trips into their teaching, and if so, how well they worked. 

Comments

[Rick Bales]

I think it's nuts that many teachers of Civ Pro (including me until a few years ago) do not make sure students get to see the inside of a courthouse. Over the last couple of years, I've arranged for my students to do oral arguments in a simulation case in front of a real judge in a real courthouse -- and then we follow up with a tour of the chambers, jail, and clerk's office (where the students learn the value of knowing/being nice to the clerks!).

Importantly, I don't arrange transportation -- I make the students figure out where the courthouse is, deal with parking, etc. etc., just like they will when they become real lawyers.

[Eric Fink]

If I taught Contracts, I would certainly take the students on a field trip to view the Mebane Bridge in Eden, NC (just a short drive from Elon Law), better known to law students as the "bridge to nowhere" from Rockingham County v. Luten Bridge Co. It's not a bad spot for bass fishing in the Dan River.

[Alfred Brophy]

Pictures, Eric, pictures! Where are the pictures of the Mebane Bridge? And, by the way, I'd thought until just a few moments ago that this was a Virginia case (because I confused this with the Rockingham County in Virginia.) Thanks for adding to my store of local knowledge.

[Larry Rosenthal]

Visiting a prison tells one side of the story. Will you be visiting any crime victims? Maybe if Foucault had spent some time with rape victims, he would have written a different book.

Larry Rosenthal
Chapman University School of Law

[Patrick]

During my first year of law school, my criminal law professor (like most or maybe all crim professors at my school) took us to a maximum security prison in California. Students were able to speak with guards and inmates.

Based on my experience, I say do it - I can't encourage you enough!

[Matt Lister]

I think that sounds like a great idea, Rick. I like the idea of combing a trip with fishing, Eric, though I think my doubts about the quality of water in the water-ways near Philadelphia makes me a bit afraid to try around here! Larry- have you read Foucault's book? I'm not sure that he's insensitive to the situation of crime victims. But that's not really relevant to the issue I'm particularly interested in here. Thankfully, being interested in one thing at a particular time doesn't mean you have to think other things are not of interest and importance, too. And, as I come from a family of police officers, I know the troubles faced by crime victims pretty well myself.

Patrick- I'm glad to hear that. The Eastern State Pen isn't a working Penitentiary any more, so the students won't have quite the same experience as you did, but hopefully it will still be of use.

[Eric Fink]

For Al, and anyone else interested, here's a picture of the Mebane Bridge, from the City of Eden's website: http://www.ci.eden.nc.us/Mebane%20bridge.jpg

Perhaps the NC contingent of the Lounge should plan a field trip some time?

[Alfred Brophy]

Yes, absolutely -- we all need a picnic there one afternoon.

[Eric Fink]

Also, for Matt: As a former Philadelphian, I urge you to take advantage of the excellent fishing opportunities in and near the City of Brotherly Love. Within the City, the Wissahickon in Fairmount Park is a nice place to fly fish for trout, smallmouth bass, and panfish. The Schuylkill has all kinds of fish. And the ponds in Roosevelt Park in South Philly (near the stadiums) have some big bass.

A little further afield, West Valley Creek in Valley Forge N.P. offers good fly fishing for trout and panfish. The Delaware River offers smallmouth bass, shad, and stripers. Good spots for wading (the water this time of year is generally low and slow -- I've actually walked across from PA to NJ, though that was during a drought) are at Washington's Crossing and by the "Trenton Makes, The World Takes" bridge (yes, really!). And I highly recommend a trip to the Little Lehigh, a gorgeous stream in a quiet park just outside Allentown, where you'll also find the world's most quaint fly tackle shop, in an old stone shed.

[Matt Lister]

Thanks for the tips Eric- I live right by the Wissahickon park and was walking on Forbidden Drive just this afternoon. I see people fish in it a lot, but with all the horse stables along the park and the run-off from Lincoln Drive and the other roads I feel a bit skeptical about the fish from there. With the Schuylkill I worry that it has 3-eyed fish like in the Simpsons! Up by Washington Crossing might be nice, though. Thanks for the picture of the bridge.